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What's your PC Specs?; Share it
Topic Started: Jun 11 2009, 01:24 PM (350 Views)
hoganj
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windows vista home premium 64 bit
AMD thlon 64 x2 dual core 5200+ 2.70 ghz
4 gig ram
nvidia Geforce 9500 GT (1 gig)
500 gig hard drive
450 watt power supply
Edited by hoganj, Jun 27 2009, 06:25 PM.
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Nexile
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ChaoSXDemon
Jun 11 2009, 08:10 PM
mcguire720
Jun 11 2009, 05:45 PM
Mines in my signature, but i've been thinking about upgrading to a GTX275 possibly, or perhaps just adding a gts250 in sli.
The biggest thing holding me back now is that i would need a new psu for either option probably :(
You should NEVER get SLI (Scalable Linker Interface) or CrossFire. They are ABSOLUTELY waste of money and inefficient. There is ALWAYS a single GPU that out runs 2X GPU with less than 2X the single GPU's price. Of course if you are just plane rich then do what ever you want.

*note, NVIDIA calls multi-GPU SLI while ATI calls it CrossFire. They are the identical concept except maybe in technical implementation.

Specifically, 2 times the hardware is NOT 2 times the performance. You see, everything and literally everything has a catch; this is especially so in computer science - all about making choices about which catch to take. In using two GPU (Graphics Processing Unit), a new difficulty is introduced: Synchronization. It is only intuition that this problem arise: given only one monitor with two GPU, how do we divide the screen? Well, here are some of the ways we are using today:

Split Frame Rendering (SFR): Literally the screen's graphical contents are divided into 50/50. The division maybe vertical or horizontal depends on the implementation. Obviously this introduces synchronization problems as if the first half out renders the 2nd half, you will see "broken" images. Therefore, tremendous efforts have been put into dealing with this issue and hence lowering the performance.

Alternate Frame Rendering (AFR): Each graphics card would render a completely scene by it self. However, as one renders say 1st scene, the other graphics card renders the 2nd scene. Needless to say, synchronization is again a concern.

There are other minor effects that SLI/CrossFire supports. But basically they just split the jobs between the two cards which also has to deal with synchronization problems.

In conclusion, at least for now, there are always better single GPU than multiple combined ones. GPUs unlike CPUs, do not really have the concepts of thread. I mean CPU can operate over many software like say you are listening to music while browsing internet and at the same time downloading movie and maybe updating system. Multi-CPU allows true separate threading which allows true simultaneous execution of different software. Graphics....not so much as there is only 1 Graphics API (usually OpenGL, or DirectX).

Hopefully you have learned something and have convinced to only get a powerful single GPU instead of 2XGPU.
So, your pretty much saying that theres a single card out that out preforms my 2 4890's with less price? ive tried quite a few cards and nothing touches those right now, the gtx295 is close but its about $600. And as far as crossfire is concerned for a waste of money, uhm i get about 12-15 more fps on crysis with the other card on, thats a huge difference. As long as you can draw the maximum power out of your cards IE. know enough about pc's before you go and build a monster. then crossfire or sli will roll you in huge fps increases.
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Fusion
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Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Hard Drive: 500 GB
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 4670
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

Not a powerfull machine at all, but it will have to do for now since im on a tight budget for a while.
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KillerChris66
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Manufacturer: Me
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.99GHz
Memory: 4096MB PC-8500 RAM (1066MHz)
Hard Drive: 640 GB
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 (896MB - 216 stream processors)
Monitor: Dell Ultrasharp 1680x1050
Sound Card: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Speakers/Headphones: Logitech USB Headset
Keyboard: Dell Media Center keyboard
Mouse: Razer Copperhead 3G (red)
Mouse Surface: My shitty ass desk
Operating System: Windows Vista Black Edition™ 2009 (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.090302-1506)
Motherboard: GIGABYTE S-SERIES EP45-DS3L
Computer Case: Lian-Li Aluminum PC Case Classical Series
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Cyberdemon
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Most of it is in my sig but here's a detailed list:

Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.4GHZ

Video Card: Nvidia Geforce 8800GTX 768 MB Superclocked

Motherboard: Foxconn X38A

Memory: 4GB Corsair DDR3 @ 1333MHZ

Hard Disc(s): Western Digital Raptor X 150 GB Internal 10000 RPM, Seagate 1 TB Internal 7200 RPM, Seagate Freeagent Pro 500 GB External 7200 RPM

Power Supply: 680 watts

Case: Antec 900

Monitor: Asus 23.5" Widescreen running at 1920x1080

Mouse: Microsoft Sidewinder

Keyboard: Saitek Gaming Keyboard

Speakers/Headphones: Creative 2.1 speaker system and a pair of Tritton AX Pro gaming headphones with true 5.1 surround sound.

Operating System: Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP1
Edited by Cyberdemon, Aug 7 2009, 12:22 PM.
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PC Specs: Nvidia GeForce 8800GTX Superclocked, Intel Core 2 Q6600 2.4GHZ, 4GB Corsair DDR3 1333MHZ, 150 GB Wester Digital Raptor X HDD 10000 RPM, Seagate 1TB HDD 7200 RPM, Windows Vista Ultimate x64
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JonWall
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Phenom II x4 940 3.0ghz (usually just run it at stock but have it had it around 3.9ghz)
Vendetta 2 cpu cooler
Asus m3a79-t deluxe mobo
4gb ocz 1000mhz ddr2
2 sapphire 4830s in crossfire
ocz 600w stealthxstream psu
640gb caviar black/750gb seagate for storage
haf 932 case
acer 20" lcs (older one with only vga unfortunately)
logitech g9 mouse
logitech g11 keyboard
creative fatal1ty headset
OS is windows 7 ultimate rtm x64

As for the sli and crossfire being "useless", you must not have much experience with them, or have had a bad experience with one of them in the past. My 4830s easily outperform a single 4870 in the majority of games. The crossfire scales VERY well, in most games its about a 60-70% increase, although in COD$ it is LITERALLY a 100% fps gain with crossfire enabled.
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I just had a major facepalm on the crossfire/sli bash. There are some valid points in there, but others that are over exaggerated and not thought out at all. Different GPU's scale differently, if your CPU is shit crossfire/sli isn't going to fair too well, different games scale the gpu's differently, etc. etc. I also thought it was amusing that you suggested a GTX 295, which in essence is 2x GTX 275s in SLI. You also seemed to dismiss the fact that someone might get a card when it's new, and spend a fortune on it, then later down the road when it's half the price get a second. It's not a horrible idea. For example, I spent $300 on my GTX 260, I could get a second now for ~$150 and have the performance between an HD 5870 and HD 5850, depending on the game of course. What would you rather do, spend $150 for SLI, or set aside a GTX 260 and spend $300 on an HD 5850 for similar performance? Something to chew on.
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